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Troop 411 was founded on March 15, 1982, and has since been sponsored by Hilltop United Methodist Church in Sandy, Utah. We are not a “Methodist” troop, on the contrary, Troop 411 has welcomed people from countless religious and ethnic groups. Troop 411 has a legacy of active scouting and leadership in our community. We proudly boast of more than 125 young men earning the rank of Eagle Scout in our 30+ year history.

Troop 411 is truly a boy-led troop. The Scouts in leadership roles plan and execute the agenda and events.  Every month, the Senior Patrol Leader conducts the “PLC” meeting (Patrol Leadership Committee). Supervised by the Scoutmaster and other adult leaders, Scouts in leadership roles outline their plans for the next month’s troop meetings, additional scheduled events, discuss concerns, and monitor the progress of each patrol and Scout.  

During any troop meeting, camping trip, or activity, the Scouts police one another on their behavior and conduct, duty rosters, safety, and appearance. Ask any boy “What’s wrong with this picture?” and see how quickly he tucks his shirt!  

Adult leaders are always nearby to offer guidance, suggestions, and support. The most common thing you’ll hear at any Troop 411 function is “Lead by Example”.  Adults handle most logistics of monthly campouts, but otherwise, the majority of every meeting and event is controlled and run by the boys. 

Troop 411 camps 11 months out of the year, taking a hiatus in December.  A standard campout is two nights, Friday and Saturday night. Full Class B uniforms are worn all weekend.  Our Chaplain’s Aide leads the troop in a devotional service each Sunday morning, where full Class A uniforms are required. One of the most prized recognitions is earning the council’s year-round camping patch, which requires at least one night of outdoor camping per month (at a scouting function) for ten months out of any consecutive twelve. Cabin camping does not count!  It is relatively common to see boys earn this in Troop 411 and a number have earned this award repeatedly - receiving their two, three, four, and even five year pins.  An even higher achievement is the 100 nights of camping patch, which a select few have also earned. 

The recognition does not end with the boys, though. Troop 411 would not have achieved this level of success without the participation and dedication of a core group of adults. Of course many were Scouts themselves (some are Eagle Scouts). While many are parents of boys in the troop, a large number of adult volunteers continue to serve long after their own children have matriculated through the Scouting years. They participate because of their love of Scouting and their passion for this troop and the young men who participate in the program. Their devotion is a critical component of Troop 411’s historic success. 

Adults are  frequently recognized for their service – on the Troop, District, and Council levels. Each year the troop acknowledges dedicated adults with its own “Old Rugged Cross Award.” An impressive number adults have received the District Award of Merit, and Troop 411 has eight adults who have been conveyed the prestigious Silver Beaver Award. Troop 411's former scoutmaster, Doug Orr, has received all of these awards, as well as the God and Service Award. Doug has also earned the year-round camping patch an impressive thirteen times while accumulating more than 500 nights of camping. Doug recently retired after 21 years as Scoutmaster and remains involved with the Troop

The awards are a great acknowledgment to be sure, but they are merely emblematic of the work that has gone into making Troop 411 such an outstanding program. 

The involvement and dedication of the troop’s adults is dependent on their training.  Upon registering, all of Troop 411’s adult leaders immediately undertake the minimum requisite training (including fast start, youth protection, and adult basic training). Everyone is encouraged to broaden their training as much as possible, particularly in areas of their specific interest and/or responsibility.  More than a dozen of the troop’s adults have participated in Woodbadge Training. Additional training by each adult provides for quick recognition of each adult’s strengths and resources for any given skill sets. Troop 411 has an adult leader dedicated to tracking and maintaining the training of all adult leaders, ensuring that we all stay current in vital areas. 

As adult leaders, we believe our role is to cultivate life skills and practices that will benefit these young men for the rest of their lives. 

While we encourage all of the boys to excel as they develop their skills and earn their rank advancement and merit badges, we try to match the pace to their personal readiness to learn these lessons, retain that knowledge, and then use those experiences in their daily lives. 

We have all seen instances of young scouts who have received rank advancement or merit badges but appear to have held on to little of the skills or knowledge that were required to do so.  Ultimately this is a disservice to the scout, and it isn't the experience we want any boy to have in Troop 411. 

At times, this approach can put us at odds in a group setting, particularly those designed to rapidly advance a large number of scouts, such as summer camp classes which give passive exposure to another's knowledge and skills but little personal application. On a number of occasions adults from our troop have taken it upon themselves to supplement the boys’ experience, ensuring the training and skill sets required for the task at hand carry beyond a boy’s short-term memory.

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